God is completely overtaken. although i am a women i know for a fact that men and women can never be equal one you have to be the same in order to be equal. If the opponent or his representative is absent from the first session of the opposition hearing; The court decides on its own initiative to waive his right to object, and this resolution is final. And even if there is this great concern about relations between men and women, why is it so wrong? May Allah bless America and his brother Saudi. :S document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I think, these people donot respect other people, they think they are above all. An error in conditioning or incorrectly describing the incident In this case, the Supreme Court is a court of application, not a trial court. The Ministerial Agency of Civil Affairs also launched the Taqdeer Service, which provides all the necessary services to the elderly by visiting them at home. Why did so many people accuse Muhammad of being crazy? In Saudi Arabia its just plain sick Barberism! and its time to be happy. Saudi people are complete hypocrates. The third part of the Saudi court system consists of various committees within government ministries that address specific disputes, such as labor issues. It is certainly clear in one of the two available photographs (see above) that the operative is raising his caning arm high and has no book under it. 21 October 1977 Supplement on Saudi Arabia. What about the victim? Both group dating ie brothers and sisters dating in groups of friends, and chaperoned dating are common elsewhere, even in the West (double dating is often used as a form of having a chaperone/protector/friend nearby), and is a good idea. @Ali, its your mistake that you want to find out Allahs word or Guidance on a western motivated blog, whoses criteria and prrofs are judged as per the Doctrine of Uncle Sam. Two days later, the same court ordered two married Asian women to receive 180 lashes for alleged adultery. To most Muslims, the Quran is like a software license. U.S. Embassy Riyadh Abdullah Ibn Hudhafah As Sahmi Street Roundabout no. If the court case is cancelled, he may request a continuation of the court case based on the circumstances, wherein the court will set a hearing to consider the circumstances and will inform the defendant. Since Allah is God himself, how does it make sense for Allah to send blessings on Muhammad? is it okay that even kids with traces of pubic hair were killed? Why is the Quran full of verses that say Muhammad is not crazy? UN Committee Against Torture, 10 May 2002 However, the USA is guilty of supporting the Saudi regime, which receives the most American aid of any nation other than Israel, and that is something Americans should be ashamed of. Scroll down to "Migrant workers in Saudi Arabia" for a first-person description of a Filipino woman's judicial caning. What I mean is, how did the religious state acquire the right to treat people in this way? Local courts routinely order floggings, often of hundreds of lashes -- or even thousands, inflicted in instalments. I thought that this existence, this life, is good. The courts are an essential pillar of the State. Very hard to believe in this modern world. The Supreme Court is classified at the top of the judicial organization to receive a complaint against the court that issued the impugned decision and is not a party to separate litigation. Regarding the khalwah, it is a sin yet as long as they are not proved to commit sex etc they cant be punish. It is very difficult to get a fair trail for any person. In earlier years' editions it was "frequently". The agent must deposit a certified copy of his mandate document with the competent clerk. SO PLEASE CHANGE THE LAWS PEOPLE LOVE EACH OTHER AND GET MARRIED THEN ONLY THERE LIVES WILL BE GOOD WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO INTERFARE IN THERE WORLD I CAN UNDERSTAND WAT OUR PROPHET (PUBH) SAID US BUT RETHINK IT YOUR ALSO A HUMAN SOME DAY U WILL ASLO DO THEY THINKING IN YOUR LIFE Ayesha They have no choice but to communicate with the opposite sex. 10. "The Saudis don't want us to talk about this. these punishments are meted out on the people in the name of religion and Islam preaches it is a religion of peace, where is the peace if it cannot tolerate its own people.I think that the Quran that dictates all these barbaric punishments should be rewritten to make it more tolerable and humane . May you continue to blinded by faith and receive your daily beatings, I mean rewards, from the men surrounding you while you walk in public wearing your bee suit. This implies that the Saudi authorities draw a distinction between "moral" offences to do with sex or alcohol, punished by caning, and political or religious crimes, punished by flogging with a leather strap. Pingback: Dating In Saudi Arabia: Tips & Advice - Banker in the Sun. Thanks for the summary, and for the ideas about how young Saudis get around khilwa. (LogOut/ Ask not of things which, if they were made unto you, would trouble you; but if ye ask of them when the Quran is being revealed, they will be made known unto you. A community cannot flourish if leaders surpress half of its population. . Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Otherwise I am sure islam did not forbid men and women to talk and since when few slaps and punches were OK in Islam. Obviously the Saudi girls arent thinking about the divine law, only the physical repercussions in this world. By refusing to comment on you are silently approving of these inhuman punishments. What I find astonishing is the way women in a country like KSA have no legal status as adults, yet are held fully accountable for criminal actions. Both my husband and I did not say anything so I dont know if it was cut off as punishment or due to an accident or illness but I bet lots of people wonder when they meet him. Conditions of validity of attending through the Power of Attorney : All that the attorney decides in the presence of the authorizer shall be equivalent to what the authorizer himself decides unless he denies it during the consideration of the case in the same session. Im interested as to whether this issue has EVER been seriously put to and addressed by the powers-that-be (Mullahs etc.) I can see that it is very helpful in dispelling misconceptions in the minds non-Saudis, because you give an objective picture of how things are and do not support an unjust practise simply because it happens to be Saudi You are certainly not biased in your views. "The strokes, delivered through a thin shirt, are not supposed to leave permanent damage, but to leave painful welts that bleed and bruise.". Secondly, the majority of citizens of Saudi Arabia are so happy of their laws and government. Obstacles to power of attorney in litigation. Unless we are the victims, we tend to sympathise with criminals. The Capitalist World is a Cruel Bloodthirsty Game; But It does has It`s Rules. Thanks for the insight by the way. Amnesty International document. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MEN AND WOMEN WILL EVER BE THE SAME. It is evident that practice in Saudi Arabia is far from uniform. What is the religious justification for this? Saudis are the real thevies, they loot the haj and umra pilgrims, expats. [3], The Sharia courts have general jurisdiction over most civil and criminal cases. They take the passports of expats and harrass them as bonded labours. But I hope it doesnt support the concept of khilwa. However, some observers, notably Amnesty International (see external links below), reject these claims as mere propaganda by the regime; they say this Koranic rule is by no means always followed, and suggest that the floggings, at least in some cases, do in fact cause injury to the recipient. (vol. In addition to the previous judicial bodies, there are several Administrative Committees that have jurisdiction to hear certain . That alone makes it a lot more powerful than the much vaunted Abrahamic god. Different reports suggest that, as one might expect under a regime where the rule of law is a wholly alien concept, there are no formal procedures and little consistency about the modus operandi: either a whip, a leather strap, or a long cane may be used; sometimes the lashes are confined to the buttocks, more often it seems they are spread out from the neck to the ankles, and usually with the prisoner simply lying face down on the ground. you are really a big mother dam fucker go fuck your self chris because your mind is not in your heAD ITS IN YOUR BLOODY SMELLY ASSS you peoples are cowards bloody fucking christians good for nothing. and any attempt made to justify (no matter how illogically) why women can be legally held fully accountable and punished under the law for their actions in a country that denies them adult legal status and where they are therefore deemed NOT responsible for their lives. As an Asian diplomat put it apologetically: "They must be restrained in case they run amok during the beatings." What are your leaders trying to hurt their own communities? please change the system of punishment. But I must tell you that there is blood and there are scars. Next thing you know is these bunch of hypocrites want to apply the Sharia law by bringing the neck of this innocent girl to the chopping board and all this without a proper representation and a fair trial. [8] For example, as well as appointing a new Minister of Justice, a new chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council was appointed. and you will never find a single clue about QURAN that has been amended or not through out the history. It is not permissible for a judge, a member of the Bureau of Investigation and Public Prosecution, or anyone working in the courts to act as an attorney for the litigants in the case even if it is filed before a court other than the one to which he belongs. Some years back I had the opportunity to work in Saudi Arabia for two long years. So what gives you the right to claim to know the mind of God? The relevant court specializes in the disputes that occur in its circuit. Great Post, Reveals that the Saudi authorities have contested the UN view that judicial corporal punishment constitutes torture. Nevertheless, surprisingly soon he is heard moaning and shouting. US State Department Report on Human Rights Practices for 2006 www.corpun.com : Archive : 1976 to 1995 : SA Judicial Oct 1977-- THE ARCHIVE -- SAUDI ARABIA. Hi. Question, How is it a khilwa in a cafe where at least 5 other people are around? If your god is so worried about what they are doing why doesnt he punish them himself? The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has recently issued a Judicial Costs Law (the " Law "), which will come into effect on 10 Shaaban 1443 AH corresponding to 13 March 2022 AD. The country? The only purpose behind this post is to state how things are. There is too much insecurity among people who do not allow their beliefs to be questioned and challenged. Since many of Muhammads own family members didnt believe him, why should we? Video Footage Of A Public Execution In Surak City In Northern Iran Posted on January 14, 2016 HRANA News Agency - A prisoner identified as "A-B" was executed on charge of murder in public on the boulevard of Goharbaran in the Surak city, of Mazandaran Province, on 4 th January, and the following video report shows this execution. In summary, Saudi Arabia has in the last few years implemented radical and wide-ranging reforms to increase efficiency and improve predictability within its legislative and judicial systems. But reading your blog is such a cultural shock for a guy like me who lives in Montral. Presence of the Defendant and Absence of the Plaintiff, In the case of multiple defendants, if some defendants were able to reach their representatives and others failed to inform their representatives of the court date and all were absent or the representatives who were not informed were absent, the court must postpone the hearing of the case to a later hearing, where the plaintiff is notified of the absentee who has not be informed and the judgement in the case will be deemed as in presence of the defendant. The court was issued by a non-competent circuit. Health Mission:(202) 866-0767 One that I heard of isthat they go in groups. "If the girls are not married, the hospital is bound by law to tell the police, and the girls are arrested. I wish to read more things about it! If the girl screams too much and seems in too much pain, they will administer the punishment in instalments - 40 lashes now, 40 in a week's time and so on. Judgments, court judgement, decisions of arbitrators, and authenticated instruments in a foreign country. (UPDATE: but see video clip below.). Yes the punishments are cruel but they are lessons for humankind that dont go astray(commit immense sins) or else youll suffer. It will take you through the four bodies of the Judicial System in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia including the Supreme Court, Appellate Court, First Instant Court, and Enforcement Court. Maybe change updating, re-interpretation whatever you want to call it, IS possible. The Saudi court system consists of three main parts. A cane or a crop is used to beat the victim and in many cultures it takes place in a public venue, continuing the theme of public humiliation. The PUNISHMENT of theft by removing the hands of the guilty is JUST.its just not enforced as it should be here in Arabia, as ALL of the members of the SAUD tribal family, & their cronies, would be amputees! I dont neither do you!Humans dont define justice, it is God who defines Justice and if God prescribed certain severe punishment for evil doings then it must be so and the criminal should be punished. Great, great article. Think, Criticize, Examine, and lets change the world. All these things can and do happen. you sound like a very intelligent woman very capable of many things, what are you still doing in that country? If the defendant, who does not have a known place of residence or a selected place of residence in the Kingdom, does not attend after his statement, the court will rule on the case and its judgement against the defendant will be deemed as in absentia or in the absence of. Muslims derive Shariah law primarily from the Holy Quran and secondarily from the Sunnah, the practices and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad during his lifetime. Saudi Arabian blogger and activist, Raif Badawi, is due to face his second round of 50 lashes on Friday (16 January) after being accused ofinsulting Islam. A practical flaw in Islam is that a man can have four wives, which would leave three men without wives. Judicial costs refer to the initial fees that the plaintiff is obliged to pay to the relevant department accompanying the filing of the lawsuit with the courts. Question, Why am I getting whipped and lashed when I didnt even touch her hand to shake? But what happens after they are caught? Propaganda page by the Saudi government. Dont be proud to reject the word of God. That anyone could care for a moment about who is talking to who, is beyond my understanding. Its no better than a 5 year olds thinking. their relationship started a year ago and im wondering why the authorities can not catch them. Please could the blog be ordered in reverse so most recent comments are seen first at the top of the blog? It is not easy nor it was something pleasant to be done. Who the fuck chops people up and whips them or rapes them??? The decision was issued by a court that was not properly formed, in accordance with the provisions of the law. On 31 August, 2021 . Now lets suppose there is a higher power, responsible for all of this, including us. why is that permissible? The three were caught with a large number of Islamic religious books. 4. i am not lying. 1, no. But that doesnt make all Saudis bad- it only means the bad ones can do what they like. However, its your point of view, at last we all have to return to God to answer what we did on earth. The quote by another comment above by a blogger called asmallquietvoiceinthedark summarised it all perfectly,Youre like a slave so broken by the machinery of slavery that you defend your slave masters against your own kind and your own interests. And then they are deported. Khamisa and Fahd were sentenced to 40 lashes and four months imprisonment each, and Hadyan to 60 lashes and six months imprisonment. I know many very good, honest, trustworthy Saudis. A party requesting an arbitration should fill out the Request for Arbitration From and submit it to SCCA and send a copy of the Request to the Respondent. How do you know Muhammad wasnt a narcissist? Photo of public judicial caning in Saudi Arabia, Oct 1977. www.corpun.com. Young Saudishave their ways to getaround these laws. "Judges have a lot of discretion. Oil will not last forever! [17] In the same year, the court held trial sessions of human rights activists, including Mohammed Saleh al-Bejadi, co-founder of the Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association (ACPRA)[16] and Mubarak Zu'air, a lawyer for long-term prisoners,[7] and a protester, Khaled al-Johani, who spoke to BBC Arabic Television at a protest in Riyadh. Singles are imprisoned and whipped. this theory has gone everywhere. The act of indoctrinating others and not allowing any room for the possibility and capacity to develop ones own mind is though. Senior Judicial Assistant Zakat, Tax and Customs Authority Riyadh, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 16 hours ago Over 200 applicants Local courts routinely order floggings, often of hundreds of lashes -- or even thousands, inflicted in instalments. Very good analogy, and even more impressive that it comes from someone called Abdul. If the defendant is absent from the initial hearing and his attorney or representative was not informed, consideration of the case will be postponed to a later hearing in which the defendant will be notified. Amnesty International Report 1999 The basic system of government in the Kingdom is based on justice and equality. Jurisdiction of the Supreme Court is limited to four cases, which are: Violating the provisions of Sharia law and the regulations issued by the legal Guardian that do not violate the Islamic Laws. If the plaintiff is absent and does not present a valid and excusable reason that is accepted by the court, the case will be cancelled and will not be open to resumption without a decision from the Supreme Court. My heart breaks for you you are the perfect product of a perfect storm. COME TO SAUDI ARABIA, IF YOU PREFER TO GIVE UP ON YOUR LIFE AND NEVER TRUST A SAUDI. This is the best adsense alternative for any type of website (they approve all websites), for more info simply search in gooogle: murgrabias tools. Such arrogance can only result in backwardness; and for you it obviously has. I wanted to write a little comment to support you. If it is not then it would seem it would be better to try and die soon to get to the after life. 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